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The Rational Middle

May 25, 2022

The team gets together to celebrate the new Rational Middle of Immigration video episodes, puzzle over Title 42, and consider the marvel that is DACA. Plus the perennial question of what it takes to be optimistic about immigration reform.


May 18, 2022

Perla Trevizo, an award-wining journalist with the ProPublica/Texas Tribune Investigative Unit, takes us inside her reporting on the long history of Texas's border spending; outputs vs. outcomes when it comes to judging efficacy; and the architecture of Texas's relation to its Southern border.


May 11, 2022

Sandra Sanchez, an award-winning journalist covering the Southern border at Border Report, speaks with Loren Steffy about her two-part deep dive into the ramifying effects of the Migrant Protection Protocols—also known as Remain in Mexico—on the lives of countless asylum-seekers.


May 4, 2022

Chief Andy Harvey, Chief of Police in Pharr, Texas, as well as its newly-appointed City Manager, joins Melissa Brannan to discuss some of the components of life in a border town: the blockade at the Pharr-Reynosa International Bridge, Operation Lone Star, what it's like being on the Law Enforcement Immigration Task...